we were just going through what happened with president george w. bush with the iraq war and president clinton with his personal indiscretion with 3407b monica lieu win aewinskylewinsk. why have presidents struggled so much in a second term? >> i think we have to look at the percentages, erin. to get to the second term you probably did pretty well in your first term, right? over the course of eight years it's not that unusual for a president to stupble or have a problem. so i think we've got to look at presidents over the whole eight years and get away from this second term curse. >> familiarity does breed contempt. we're not on too much. george washington had a lousy second term relatively speaking. he was the father of his country. no parties, unanimous choice of the american people. we don't like to talk about it, but people were taking a lot of potshots at him in the second term because that's when the jeffersonian republican party emerged. it was a tough time. he wanted to quit after his first term. they wouldn't let him, and he was sorry he ha